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| Chet_Manley | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/05/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 09 May 2014 - 03:08 Post title : Hand grip swap | | | Could someone please walk me through a hand grip swap? It looks easy, but I'm always bumping up against Murphy's Law. Looks like you squirt windex and compressed air on the inner part of the old grip, but do you have to remove the butt end first? Does the latter unscrew?
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| GerPa | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,919 | | Location | : | Mackay, Central Queensland, Australia |
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| | Posted : 09 May 2014 - 05:34 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: Chet_Manley) | | | Hi Chet
What I did on mine and have done on numerous other bikes is.
To remove it.
1" If there is an "End Cap" remove it.
2: I then get a long thin bladed screwdriver and insert it between the grip and the bar and work it around the bar to loosen it up, it also helps if you can spray some lubricant. "WD40" ( I stick the WD40 Spray Straw up alongside the screwdriver) or Soapy Water or something similar up alongside the screwdriver an it helps loosen every thing up between the grip and the bar.
3:Then grab the grip and just twist it and pull it off as you twist it. you should end up with something in your hand.
  Hopefully it is the hand grip and not something else with all that Lubricant getting around.
To refit it
1:Clean off and excess Lubricant or Soapy Water and make sure it is dry.
2:Go and pinch some Hair spray off Ya Ol Lady and spray the inside of the hand grip and then just slid it on to the required position and then leave it to dry overnight.
3:Go for a ride and think Geeeees "How easy was that I am a Legend" 
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 14 May 2014 - 14:33 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: Chet_Manley) | | | Also note that if you intend to slip rubber grips only onto the bike, the throttle side is going to be a bit more of a hurdle than u may think. If you are going to use a set that has a throttle housing as part of it then you're fine assuming it fits right. But rubber alone is a bit problematic because the throttle housing isn't just a smooth sleeve you can take the rubber off of and install new rubber. It has these nubs that the grip locks onto. So you'd have to cut the rubber off, as you cannot slip it off with all the WD40 on earth. Then cut those nubs off and grind or sand the housing smooth. I did this because i wanted the old time triumph grips. (actually "gran turismo but they used to call em triumph grips back in the day) Plus it entailed even more modification than that to make everything look right. Hard to explain. But suffice it to say it's not a quick and easy task on the throttle side unless you use grips that have a housing built in.
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| Chet_Manley | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 07/05/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 14 May 2014 - 18:05 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: daz) | | | Thanks, gents, but I think I'll stay with the stockers. I'm pretty handy, but I see too much fail if I attempt this.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 14 May 2014 - 18:55 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: Chet_Manley) | | | Chet - this is easier than described if you get the right grips. I went with Arlen Ness Deep Cut Black grips, and it's as simple as:
1) Remove bar end weights with allen key
2) Cut off the clutch side by slitting it lengthwise.
3) Clean off old glue residue (I used GooGone)
4) Apply new glue (provided) to bar, and slide on the new grip
5) Unscrew throttle side switch housing cover
6) Using needlenose plier, remove throttle cables from "holder"
7) Remove stock throttle side grip (simply slips off after opening housing and removing bar end weight)
8) Slip on the new throttle grip
7) Using a dremel, rotory tool or hand file, "ease off" the sharp edge of the aluminum housing where the cables enter. You'll want to do this regardless, as it's been the cause of many throttle failures while riding (although I haven't heard of a stock grip - non-heated - failing)
8) reattached cables to the holders
9) close switch housing and tighten screws
Done. Took me 30min, and 2 beers.
Throttle side steps may be different for heated Triumph grips (plus the wiring), but it really is a piece of cake.
Jamie
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| Chet_Manley | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 07/05/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 15 May 2014 - 13:07 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: bnz433) | | | Thanks, but I think I'm going to try a crampbuster throttle assist first. I want the fatter one, but wonder if I should get the smaller (CB2) or larger (CB4) diameter version. Dude on the rat forum said the larger one shifted on him and interfered with the front brake. :(
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 May 2014 - 13:23 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: Chet_Manley) | | | That works. Or the Kuryakyn ISO grips have a "throttle boss" option that goes on the end of the grip when you screw in the allen key. Can't swing up on you, and the grips are pretty comfy. Same install process as I'd mentioned.
Whichever works best for you. I have a $5 "rubber band" version that I use only on long rides. It's not sexy, but it can't rotate out on my, and goes on and off in less than 2 seconds. It's not as wide as the crampbuster, but suits the purpose of being able to open the throttle hand to stretch it out.
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| RatDog | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/12/2012 | | Posts | : | 516 | | Location | : | Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 May 2014 - 15:30 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: Chet_Manley) | | | Chet go with the fat one. The little one does not really fit and ability to shift the big one is a feature not a bug.
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| Chet_Manley | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 07/05/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 15 May 2014 - 17:57 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: RatDog) | | |
RatDog wrote:
Chet go with the fat one. The little one does not really fit and ability to shift the big one is a feature not a bug. |
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Thanks! Just bought the fat one.
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| rrm | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 08/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 6 | | Location | : | meridian, Mississippi , United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Dec 2014 - 17:21 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: Chet_Manley) | | | Chet
Have a 2013 Thunderbird ABS. Want to put Kuryakyn 6240 ISO grips and Kuryakny Throttle Cruise Assist on. Had any experience with these?
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| MotorMac | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,791 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Dec 2014 - 17:46 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: bnz433) | | | And if changing bars, does anybody make inserts like the ones inside stock bar ends? Something that could be tack-welded in place perhaps?
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Dec 2014 - 20:33 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: rrm) | | | Shouldn't be any different with ABS. Double check the "fitment" of that Kury number. Just make sure it's for "metric" cruiser. Or better yet, just buy off of FastEddy and you're sure to get the right setup.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Dec 2014 - 20:34 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: MotorMac) | | | Not that I'm aware of.
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| MotorMac | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,791 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
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| | Posted : 31 Dec 2014 - 02:58 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: bnz433) | | | Yeah, probably wouldn't be a popular item, huh.
Wouldn't be hard to make some inserts, I'd like to keep the option of bar end weights and stay as close to stock as possible with new bars and original risers. If I can't get a throttle with machined metal spool for throttle cables, I'll be using my original (de-burred) twist grip.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 31 Dec 2014 - 12:35 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: MotorMac) | | | If you go with "HD-sized" bars, then you'll have no problems. I think Roland Sands makes an all-metal grip (even out at the cable holder). Sure there's a few others. But it all depends on what you do with the bars, first.
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| BasilM | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 20 Feb 2016 - 02:38 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: bnz433) | | | bnz433 wrote:
Chet - this is easier than described if you get the right grips. I went with Arlen Ness Deep Cut Black grips, and it's as simple as:
1) Remove bar end weights with allen key
2) Cut off the clutch side by slitting it lengthwise.
3) Clean off old glue residue (I used GooGone)
4) Apply new glue (provided) to bar, and slide on the new grip
5) Unscrew throttle side switch housing cover
6) Using needlenose plier, remove throttle cables from "holder"
7) Remove stock throttle side grip (simply slips off after opening housing and removing bar end weight)
8) Slip on the new throttle grip
7) Using a dremel, rotory tool or hand file, "ease off" the sharp edge of the aluminum housing where the cables enter. You'll want to do this regardless, as it's been the cause of many throttle failures while riding (although I haven't heard of a stock grip - non-heated - failing)
8) reattached cables to the holders
9) close switch housing and tighten screws
Done. Took me 30min, and 2 beers.
Throttle side steps may be different for heated Triumph grips (plus the wiring), but it really is a piece of cake.
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I'm going to try & install a Kury 6236 on the throttle side TBird LT. I'm thinking there will be a trick to get the placement of cables & tensioning right. Is that the case or is it as easy as slipping off the cables, take off the old throttle, put on the new one, slip on the cables?
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| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 20 Feb 2016 - 09:48 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: BasilM) | | | You will need to slacken the two cable adjusters on top of the throttle housing. Take them right back to give you plenty of slack. Undo the two housing screws and pull away the front half of the housing. Its a straight swap after that. When the new one is in you can take up some of the slack while you can see in without the front housing on. Final adjustment when front is screwed back on. All as above really.
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| BasilM | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 Feb 2016 - 00:46 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: mat1600) | |
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Feb 2016 - 19:13 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: BasilM) | | | Basil - while you're in there, do you mind loading a quick photo of the inside of the housing where the cables go through? I'm curious if they've changed anything (my step #7) related to the contact between the housing and the plastic grip/retainer where the cable barrels slip in.
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| BasilM | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 27 Feb 2016 - 22:37 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: bnz433) | | | Sure I'll take a photo. Will be interesting to see if there is a problem there waiting to happen.
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| BasilM | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 12 Mar 2016 - 01:21 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: BasilM) | | | Inside the housing. There actually was a very slight fray on the top (return) wire which you can't see in the photo. It may have been there from day 1 or may have developed. I think however that it would be worth checking again in say 10k miles. It's done 3k at the moment.
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| BasilM | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 12 Mar 2016 - 06:22 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: BasilM) | | | Here are the throttle boss and end weights installed. For anyone interested:
Clutch side came off very easy. Didn't seem to be glued much if at all as there was no residue and all I had to do was put a thin screwdriver between the rubber and the bar and wriggle it around the bar. This broke the grip and from there it just twisted off in one piece. The hardest part of the throttle side was undoing the switch screws. They were philips head and hell tight. The whole throttle grip is then replaced (not just the rubber). I haven't checked the placements of the bosses yet but will have a ride later to see if they need adjusting. The grips with weights are a bit longer than the originals (about an inch & 1/2 I reckon) so might bump my knees a bit in tight u turns. If it's a problem I'll tilt the bars up a bit.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2016 - 11:18 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: BasilM) | | | Did you have any nicks or anything on the throttle sleeve itself? Where the cable barrels are held by the plastic? The housing looks like it's got the same sharp edges like my '11 Storm.
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| BasilM | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 28 Mar 2016 - 09:02 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: bnz433) | | |
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Did you have any nicks or anything on the throttle sleeve itself? Where the cable barrels are held by the plastic? The housing looks like it's got the same sharp edges like my '11 Storm.
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No nicks on the throttle sleeve.
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| Tal | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 30/01/2015 | | Posts | : | 1,074 | | Location | : | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 23 Nov 2016 - 01:43 Post title : Re: Hand grip swap (Re: BasilM) | | | Just a wee thing I found on my throttle grip on my R3.
The throttle was not releasing nicely as it should and in fact I had to help it back to idle position. It was a bit like cruise control but it did go back by itself slowly.
I put graphite powder in there...nuthin!...CRC down the cable...nuthin! then on close inspection, the new grip I noticed was binding on the plastic insert underneath causing it to tighten a wee bit on the handler bar. A quick removal of the grip and a coarse file of the plastic throttle casing and I pushed the grip back on and presto!..fixed. I then put glue in there and slid it back on...done like a dinner!
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